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Author:  Chief [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  SO LET IT BE DONE

For those who missed the loya jirga, here's the low down:

An entirely new Council of Elders this year, minus yours truly, of course (I'm glad I went):

Members--OJ, Crawfish, Jess, Ford, Chief

Observers--Jacob, Travis

After the standard boobery, we got straight down to business. For those unclear on the concept, nominations have to have a "second" within the Council, and then the Council voted on the final list in each category by majority. With great fanfare and much adieu, the 2008 nominees (presented in no particular order) for the AWVP Awards are:

MVP: Jess, Ford, Chief, OJ, E-Dub
Rookie of the Year: Nick, Marty, Nattie G, Holly Grove, Carson
Most Improved: Will, Spoons, Big Shot, E-Dub, Scott
(I think we decided we're giving out 2 Most Improved awards this year)
Panda of the Year: Crawfish, Chief, OJ, Creepy, Ford
Server of the Year: Wescott, E-Dub, Chief, Jess, Crawfish
Point Guard of the Year: LJ, Chief, Crawfish, Jess, T2
Spiker of the Year: Ford, Jess, Mikey, OJ, E-Dub
Defensive Player of the Year: Will, Jim Back, Jess, Ford, T2
Drunkest Panda: Scott, Deto, Chief, Jess, T2

Some of you may notice one award is missing--Summer Serve was voted off the list this year.

My analysis of the list: One important first--a (primarily) Riata player is up for MVP. I consider this a good thing. There's something of a "changing of the guard" here, both in terms of the Council makeup and the nominees. The "vets" who have been at the top of everyone's list in years past are fading from memory--losing the crowd, if you will. In some ways, this is as it should be as well, but, being a vet myself, I don't want to be the last of the Jedi Knights, and I wouldn't take this lying down next season (Go Vet Squad!)

Though I am stepping up as the teller of the tale, as per usual with these meetings, there's quite a bit of discussion and confusion, so if this list does not reflect what the other council members walked away with, please speak up so it can be duly corrected.

THE EVENT--OJ will be announcing the date of the Awards Ceremony, which he is now hosting in lieu of Creepy. Crawfish will be MC. As per usual, in addition to the nominees mentioned above, there will be a spot for write-in candidates in each and every category.

NEW BUSINESS: Councilman OJ and Councilman Fish have introduced plans for "called" 2's, and 4's best of 3 matches based on set teams and schedules. Their ideas were approved by the Council in theory, with details TBD.

Based on my 16 years of experience, these concepts are easier said than done. I will also side with Travis on advocacy of maximum Panda participation vs. elite showtime. Both have their places, but the former should be far more stressed than the latter. My recommendation was one weekday where a called best of 3 game would take place based on some sort of schedule, with another such game taking place on a weekend. These would be at the start of the day.

Other people have other ideas, but they are going to have to get those past both the attendees at the Awards Ceremony and all of Panda Corps in practice. Given that, when I first started out at the Argosy, I was told I couldn't come out when the "real" players were playing, I will vigorously lobby for baby steps on this new business.

Other Business: There were discussions about dividing the 150 days of games, or thereabouts, into pre-season, regular season, and post-season, which I didn't pay much attention to. Other Council members can chime in on this. We did resolve to convene the Council of Elders during the post-season from now on, so nominees for awards will be decided upon while we can still remember who was doing what well within living memory. I prefer to have the Awards Ceremony during the same year as the season it celebrates, but this is still up in the air.

Did I miss anything? Get ready, because the 2009 season is just around the corner--Fight! Fight! Fight!

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:18 pm ]
Post subject: love water volleyball.

Author:  Jim Back [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:42 pm ]
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Please remove my name from defensive player of the year; I'm sure that there is someone more desevring of that award then me. Thanks :bear:

Author:  Jim Back [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:55 pm ]
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I guess you have to be high to understand those nominees for those categories. What happened to Jack Ass of the year? :weedman:

What are ya'll the green party? :roll:

Author:  The Lip [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:22 pm ]
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Awesome recap Cheif...Also,

Wow, I should have gone to this meeting to inject a higher level of reason, logic, and the least amount of missing & damaged brain cells...

Some points of contention...How did Mikey not make MVP consideration...I know for a fact teams he was on had the highest winning %

The Wild Boyz making Pt Guard nomination status...Do I even need to expound...this one had me rofl for real...

And how does Scott not make the nominations for Def and make Most Improved list...There are 2 names for Def that could easily be replaced w/ pre 6th beer Atty Scott

Other then that sounds like a great meeting and thx for planning...

Author:  Deto [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:14 am ]
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Why was there not but one mention of Wescott??? Wescott came in and formed a new team... .................... kicked ass and took names!!!! I guess you had to be there to write your name in on the ballot.....???? Seems kinda fuckkkked up to me but I suppose it will do. Anyway....I will be attending said ceremony to collect the most celebrated award................. Drunkest Panda. :wink:

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:11 pm ]
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Alright, so everyone loves to bitch..that's great. We'll take these complaints and change the ballot if we need to, but don't forget that there's a write-in for every vote for whoever you want. What I want to know is - who is coming to the awards ceremony?...I need to know if it's going to be big or not.

Author:  WhiteChocolateDocShizzle [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:14 pm ]
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If my car is working that day, then I will probably be there.

Author:  Jim Back [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:32 pm ]
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I'm not allowed at your house, so I won't be attending. 8)

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:00 pm ]
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You can come, Jim Back. The mean roomy is out of town, and your buddy Chris won't be there either.

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:00 pm ]
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Let me rephrase're expected to come, Jim Back.

Author:  Creepy [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:33 pm ]
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I'll print out the labels for the awards. So, no Summer Serve award and two Most Improved awards, right?

OJ, do you have a TV and DVD player? I can bring some AWVP video action.

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:54 pm ]
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I do.

Author:  Jim Back [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:05 pm ]
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The Jesus of Orange wrote:
Let me rephrase're expected to come, Jim Back.

:cry: :heart: :partyman:

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:08 pm ]
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So, you're in?

Author:  p [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:46 pm ]
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I won't be there, I will be in SF creating nuclear volleyballs to put in my pants to drive Jim Back wild! :supz: wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Author:  p [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:46 pm ]
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The Jesus of Orange wrote:
I do.

I think this means Creepy, Jim Back, and OJ are married.

Author:  Creepy [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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I want a divorce! :toimonster:

Remaining items for the ceremony:

1. Ballots :weedman:
2. Awards :weedman:

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:07 pm ]
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I'll make the ballots. We can make the awards at my house too, if you want to do that tonight or tomorrow or thursday or friday or saturday. Let me know, Creeps.

Author:  Chief [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:01 pm ]
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I am currently under the weather, so I will not be available for preplanning activities until later in the week.

Creeps, if you are heading down to OJs, you might want to stop by HQ and pick up the hog leg I've got chilling in the freezer, which promises to feed many pandas.

Author:  The Jesus of Orange [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:58 pm ]
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Let's do it later in the week...I now have plans tonight.

Author:  Creepy [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:43 pm ]
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I've got plans on Thursday and I've got the video to make.

Could someone else help out in making the awards?

Author:  Chief [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:54 pm ]
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I will attempt to recover in time to help drink/make awards. Any suggestions in terms of design for this year?

Author:  Jesus [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:33 pm ]
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Some points of contention...How did Mikey not make MVP consideration...I know for a fact teams he was on had the highest winning %

I stand more confused than you sir. 8)

Author:  Hellboy [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:46 pm ]
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i must agree on this. Mikey was most assuredly an advantage for a team. super serves. wicked spikes and inspiring fear for opposition at the net.... must i say more?

Author:  Creepy [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:54 pm ]
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Maybe Chief's got some kind of conspiracy going on here. :P

Author:  Chief [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:50 pm ]
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The most diabolical conspiracy ever, Creepy. I would emulate Cincinnatus in favor of greater rights for pandas. But exercising these rights, like, say, voting, or showing up ready to discuss the AWVP "vision thing" makes their heads all hurty. So, I will be begged to take away these headache inducing freedoms, and will become more powerful than you can ever imagine--bwahaha!

Author:  WhiteChocolateDocShizzle [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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Just be sure to go work on a farm after the task is complete.

Author:  Chief [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:17 pm ]
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Any suggestion on how to bend volleyballs into ploughshares?

Author:  fordtough [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:59 pm ]
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i love the controversy of the awards. maybe this will motivate some to play more and play better, making the 2009 season a good one. also, lj should probably play at the argosy some more this year so he can actually have a grip on what's goin on. you cant auto-popuate 50% of the season with the 50% of the time that you were there buddy, doesnt work that way

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